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blooperboy
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Yeah there was a lot of non specific non-answers in there. I'm glad that things at least seem to be on their radar, but the lack of firm answers for things has me a mite concerned. |
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Hagaren Viper
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I'm glad to see they're working on adding captions and an actual audio toggle since those are easily some of the worst aspects about Crunchy, but it's disappointing to see that basically everything else is a non-answer. This is a huge move for anime fans in general so it doesn't give me a lot of confidence how sloppily they've given out info and how long it's taken them to answer basic questions. It feels like they're rushing when there's no reason to rush - aside from saving Sony some money with those layoffs.
Looking at the banner for this article, the new logo should definitely be the eye-looking Crunchyroll logo on top of the face-looking Funi one though. |
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Akemi Tachibana
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As long as this doesn't result in fewer home video releases, I'm happy. Streaming over physical releases will never be acceptable until people can download their purchases and have the ability to download it repeatedly without charge indefinitely, even after a license expires.
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GeorgH
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Could be third party stuff, e.g. from Nozomi or VIz. But I also noted that some Wakanim titles didn't transfer, e.g. the first Season of Kaguya-sama is not widely avaiable - whilest Season 2 is. |
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Aresef
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All this money Sony has been putting into anime should be followed by a commitment to make Crunchyroll a SAG-AFTRA signatory, just like Netflix. That means union rates, protections, pension payments.
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mangamuscle
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Quite opposite, the money they put into this merger was meant to get that much back and then some, would said commitment give them any profit$? |
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Farhanawesome
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So what happen to the dubbing scene in this merger
1.Will Funi and CR still simuldub their titles on their own ? like one still being dubbed in Texas like Funi, Sound Cadence, KOCHA or Okratron while the other one, is the CR titles being dubbed in L.A like Bang zoom,Studiopolis and NYAV POST. 2.What happen to the Backlogs that still not getting a dubbed like Love Live Superstars!, Moriarty Part 2, Taisho Otome Fairy tale, Magia Record S2, Donghuas like LINK CLICK, the Daily lives of the immortal king etc. will they still get dubbed by Funi ? 3.Will number of the dubbed titles being decrease into 4 shows in every season, or will increase like how Funi did like dub every of their license later for the backlogs and new ones. |
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BigOnAnime
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Really not liking how corporate everything feels. This industry has become completely unrecognizable from when I got into anime in November 2008 when I was a 14 year old in 8th grade. To see the FUNimation name disappear despite my many problems with the company is quite sad. There goes another staple from when I got into anime, and this comes 10 years after Bandai Entertainment announced they were shutting down. Now for something that made me feel way different emotionally...
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AZLeafCat
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Crunchyroll LLC also has many job listings for Culver City, California, where Sony Pictures Entertainment is located. Crunchyroll also mentions Culver City ahead of San Francisco and Dallas in terms of US offices. Although some Crunchyroll emails continue to list a San Francisco mailing address, some Crunchyroll emails also list a Culver City, CA address. |
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Madster
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Yeah, this merger is pretty much the worst I expected to come out of this. They ignore the translator and layoff concerns with "Everything will be alright!". They're putting a bandaid on an open wound.
And looks like Crunchyroll Originals are dead in the water. Between the creators of High Guardian Spice and Onyx Equinox speaking out against the studio and the fallout of FreakAngels (not to mention the already mixed reception to the Originals besides the Webtoon shows), it wasn't surprising Sony execs decided to pull the plug. Wonder if that WWE anime will still happen... |
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JustMonika
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I haven't seen any Love Live on Crunchyroll except the subbed version of Sunshine.. Yeah, I'm definitely hanging onto my Funimation subscription because there's alot of legacy titles I want to watch that may not even get moved and could disappear indefinitely. Plus alot of shows that are on both services don't even have their dubbed counterpart on Crunchyroll yet. |
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Covnam
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Thanks for the article. Sony sure did leap into this without planning anything well it seems. You'd think they'd want to make it simple for customers to ensure retention of subscribers.
Seeing the Funi brand go away on physical is a little bit surprising, but I guess they just want to keep everything under one name, which does make sense for future marketing. |
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Triltaison
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Man, you typed out my exact thoughts! If any CR people are reading this, please get those audio and subtitle toggles working and rolled out ASAP. I never stream dubs there because of the lack of closed captioning and it's frankly crazy that they're not an option yet. Thanks for trying to get us some clarity for the merger, even if the answers weren't particularly concrete. |
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ninjamitsuki
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I don't like the sound of "overwhelming majority".
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Zalis116
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The most recent round of transfers certainly isn't good news on the uncut/uncensored materials front. From what I've been able to confirm:
Azur Lane: Broadcast version / Censored. ("Magic Steam" present in bath scenes in ep 06.) Gleipnir: Based on the lack of OP song translations on CR and the "simulcast" version on Funimation, the newly-added videos on CR are the broadcast version (with whatever censorship it may have). In Another World With my Smartphone (Dub) : Broadcast version, based on JP credits and lack of song TL in OP, where Uncut ver. on Funi has Eng credits and the OP translated. Seven Mortal Sins: Broadcast version / Censored. (Pentagram censors over breasts present about 5 minutes into ep 01.) Rosario + Vampire: Home-video version / Uncensored, though that's probably just sheer luck due to the age of the series. I'm honestly surprised that they didn't go back to Gonzo and get the TV version with bat graphics over all the pantyshots, just to spite viewers and provide ideological consistency. So pretty much anything post ~2016 (i.e. the "broadcast dub era") where Funi has the TV / simulcast versions on their site is only being added in that incarnation to CR. There's no technical reason they can't add uncensored versions as an option on CR, as seen with Senran Kagura Shinovi Master, Terraformars, and My Wife is the Student Council President. And if it's all the same company, there shouldn't be any rights issues; if Funi is allowed to stream uncut/home-video versions on FunimationNow, they should be able to do so on CR. Clearly, someone's making deliberate decisions not to add home-video versions to CR, whether it's someone in the Funi/CR/Sony ecosystem, or pressure from the Japanese side looking to make home-video versions exclusive to physical home-media releases. Maybe there's a worrisome "reverse-importation" issue with Japanese fans using VPNs to access uncut anime that would otherwise be Blu-Ray-only in Japan?
I'd concur that keeping Funimation as a publisher on physical media would make more sense, but let's hope the releases continue in some form or another. EDIT: [Unconfirmed comment about Kantai Collection removed.] Hopefully, we should see most of the popular and desirable Funimation titles transferred to CR. I'd imagine most of the older/obscure Funi shows from the 2000s and early 2010s were on the way out anyway, both in terms of the licenses and their relevancy/appeal to modern anime viewers. Is anyone going to lament Save Me! Lollipop falling out of availability?
Well, they haven't set a sunset date on the Funimation site yet, so at least these uncut versions and obscure titles will remain available (assuming they don't lock them to "Digital Copy Owners" -- i.e. Blu-Ray buyers -- only, as has happened with some Japanese versions of some shows) for the time being. Paying for two services to own the libs? I would also think that providing the uncut versions legally would be a way to diminish the need for piracy; viewers who aren't in the habit of buying Blu-Ray releases are more likely to turn to illegal downloads and bootleg streaming sites if they want uncensored/home-video-version anime. Though really, practically everything somehow seems to drive people to piracy; before the merger, it was "anime's split up among too many different services, I'll just pirate," and now it's "CR has too much power over the market, I'm gonna pirate." No doubt the direction of the wind and the relative humidity levels also manage to precipitate piracy.
You expect them to keep distributing without a license: in essence, to be pirate sites?
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