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Mumbles4s
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:42 pm |
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I am doing a paper on Otaku as a subculture. A major part of the paper is an interview with a member of the subculture. I figured why not get a large amount to interview. To make this work I would ask you to at least answer the following questions. If you feel that there is something else I should be stating by all means please let me know.
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Do you believe there is a status or hierarchy within the Otaku community? Or is everyone equal?
How do you interpret your behavior as an Otaku?
What are your reactions to to what is written/said about the Otaku culture?
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Animastryfe
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:32 pm |
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How are you defining Otaku? Are you defining it the (largely) American way as an anime/manga fan or the Japanese way as someone who has an obsessive interest in pretty much anything? (Not necessarily anime. Large misconception about that)
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BladeDragoonZETA
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:40 pm |
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this intrigues me....
1. Honestly it's hard to say one way or another, the otaku subculture is very spread out and other than cons you won't find a lot of otaku in one place. I think that most mature otaku see themselves and other otaku as equals.
2. that's a really hard one to answer; I think the only thing that defines you as Otaku is a general love of anime; therefore any Otaku behavior would be behavior that is influenced by anime (ie. cosplay)
3. I generally ignore things written about the community however it somewhat irks me when someone generalizes Otakus as a whole because each of us is as different as the anime we so enjoy
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Mumbles4s
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:29 am |
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| Animastryfe wrote: | | How are you defining Otaku? Are you defining it the (largely) American way as an anime/manga fan or the Japanese way as someone who has an obsessive interest in pretty much anything? (Not necessarily anime. Large misconception about that) |
This was bothering me as well, but due to the nature of the paper I have to limit it to those who love anime and manga. I touch on th fact that it is much more than that, but I have a limit on the page count and I already have doubled it
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DragonsRevenge
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:43 am |
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You should change it to anime fan, since Otaku means different things to different people. In japan, it's a negative term.
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Asian Guy
Joined: 25 Mar 2008
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:14 am |
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Otaku does not means a negative term in Japan.
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dormcat
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:41 am |
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| DragonsRevenge wrote: | | You should change it to anime fan, since Otaku means different things to different people. In japan, it's a negative term. |
| Asian Guy wrote: | | Otaku does not means a negative term in Japan. |
Please write a brief paragraph (less than 500 words) to explain why is / isn't "otaku" a negative term in Japan. Thank you.
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Redbeard 101
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:31 pm |
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| Quote: | | Why are any of you arguing with "Asian Guy" whose avatar says "proud asian" and whose location text says "asia land of anime" when he argues that this movie will be horrible because Asian actors aren't involved? |
Or in this case the meaning of the word otaku.
Since mods have not locked this thread I would suggest the OP clarify questions 2 & 3 a bit. They're too vague IMO. What are you asking by how do we interpret our behavior as an otaku? Are you asking do we think personally if we're otaku enough and true to otakudom? That makes the assumption all fans consider themselves otaku to begin with which is a gross assumption. And with question 3 what speech or print towards otakudom are we supposed to be reacting to? Give us an example. Or maybe you could answer your own questions to give us an example.
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IchigoK90
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:59 pm |
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When it comes to a heirarchy in the Otaku world I'd say there is. However only in terms of how many years one has spent watching anime. I mean we can't deny that newer fans to Anime generally come to forums such as these requesting recommendations. On that I'd say theres a heirarchy just with the amount one has watched or how familiar one is with the Anime world. I myself see some of the older users on this forum that have seen a great deal of anime to be higher than me in terms of knowledge, experience and will always look at their opinion above others. I mean lets face with, a lot of anime fans generally see themselves above the new fans or those calling themselves Otaku but have only seen whats new and whats popular.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:57 pm |
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Otaku is a negative term in Japan. Apparently the Japanese are far less tolerant of nerd culture than we are in America. Asians in general have that saying that "A nail sticking up must be hammered down" for the sake of uniformity, whereas American culture absolutely stresses on the individual.
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Edmund Dantes
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:01 pm |
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is this a paper on Otaku as a subculture in Japan or as a subculture in the U.S.? Because those are two entirely different subjects.
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ikillchicken
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:41 pm |
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| walw6pK4Alo wrote: | | Otaku is a negative term in Japan. Apparently the Japanese are far less tolerant of nerd culture than we are in America. Asians in general have that saying that "A nail sticking up must be hammered down" for the sake of uniformity, whereas American culture absolutely stresses on the individual. |
The latter part of your comment may be true but I've got to question whether Japan is really all that less tolerant of nerd culture. Sure otaku is a negative term there. However as I understand it, otaku refers to only hardcore anime fans, not anyone who has any interest in anime like it seems to here a lot of the time. When you look at the people here that are nerdy and obsessed enough to be considered "otaku" by the Japanese definition, I don't think people are all that much more tolerant.
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Asian Guy
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:40 am |
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Otaku is a good term in Japan referring to someone who obsessed into something, it does not mean as nerd or fanatic.
As for Otaku for hardcore Anime fan/lover term, that is another good term in Japan.
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fighterholic
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:56 am |
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| Asian Guy wrote: | | Otaku is a good term in Japan referring to someone who obsessed into something, it does not mean as nerd or fanatic.
As for Otaku for hardcore Anime fan/lover term, that is another good term in Japan. |
You are obviously not well versed in Japanese, since you do not know the correct terminology for the word.
As for the questions, I really think how some people, especially here in the US will deem themselves otaku based on how into the culture they really are. I would consider myself to be lowly to moderate fan/otaku, with a nice size collection of anime and manga, and a few figurines. Add mind you, knowledge of some series and things about its characters.
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Ultenth
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:05 am |
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Watch Welcome to the NHK, and if your room doesn't look like Yamazaki's (The neighbor guy), then chances are you aren't an otaku by the Japanese definition. Here in the US it just means anyone into anime, just like Hentai means animated porn. In both cases neither definition is correct by Japanese standards. That said, Japan is no less/more tolerant than the US when it comes to Anime, or ubernerds. Both countries most people are usually okay with people that consume it normally, as entertainment. But when it breaks over into obession, and you're the fat nerd living in your mom's basement who never dates or works and just plays eroges and watches anime all day long, both in Japan and the US that is equally frowned upon. Btw, Otaku does just mean someone obsessed with something, you could be a baseball otaku, a car otaku, etc. but usually when a "normal" person is referring to someone obsessed "nerdy" hobbies such as anime, eroge, etc. then it usually is meant more as a slur.
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