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This Week in Games - Stray Kids, Hives, 'Mins, and DLsite Making Money

Or, at least, was; once Visa and Mastercard had their say, there's no practical means for someone in America to actually pay for anything on DLsite.

The struggle against payment processors continues! Unfortunately, little progress has been made, and the battle has expanded, given many recent attempts at incorporating real-world ID verification across the United Kingdom (and oh joy, all that info has been leaked). But there's some good news... at least, in Japan. Well-known storefront DLsite, a site regularly used by creators of adult-rated comics and games, has introduced a new payment system that exists outside of Visa and Mastercard's gaze: Minna no Ginko Payment.
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—the service will not be available to users in America, even though DLsite is. Or, at least, was; once Visa and Mastercard had their say, there's no practical means for someone in America to actually pay for anything on DLsite.

I was under the impression that Japanese banks have processed payments for these sites quite well, for Japanese users, up to this day. So, if Japanese users are the only ones able to use it, what, or to whom, is the benefit that didn't exist previously?

In the meantime, continue to write Visa and Mastercard, and continue to ask your local legislators about the ridiculous standards payment processors impose (it's likely Fire Emblem or Game of Thrones would be "against terms of service" for Visa and Mastercard, after all).

Blanchimont wrote:

I was under the impression that Japanese banks have processed payments for these sites quite well, for Japanese users, up to this day. So, if Japanese users are the only ones able to use it, what, or to whom, is the benefit that didn't exist previously?

I think it's a partnership for if your bank uses Mastercard or Visa. The banks don't care, but they can't risk getting their entire membership's cards deactivated if people want to use their cards there. So for those people, they already have an easy method to send payment without using a card anymore.

At least that's what I believe the benefits are.

I'm glad this make senses to people, I promise I wasn't trying to go off topic the other time I brought up GoT, it just irks me that certain topics are considered okay for drama but automatically evil when applied to porn.

People enjoy dramas like GoT because there is something thrilling about all these people acting horrible and nobody thinks the viewers of that want to enact a Red Wedding or start a bloodline inside the royal family, so why is there this idea that erotic content immediately reflects a desire for or a contribution to exploitation in the real world?

Some people are getting ahead of themselves with it claiming this'll be how Nintendo start making movie on its own, which is ridiculous. They're just doing silly little shorts, nothing major.

I've seen some comments that Steam also needs to do it, but I have my doubts. Steam has gone back and forth on its own crackdowns of anime/hentai games, and it operates in multiple nations, so it may be more complicated and/or expensive than they care to handle. Overall, Steam will keep on and the games that were affected are small potatoes compared to everything else. I have a hard time seeing Valve being bothered enough about this.

Quick, get the Love-de-Lic chart! [snip]

I feel like westerners lost their privilege to enjoy Japanese stuff at this point. Make the people who really want this stuff put some effort into it than letting it be easily accessible and visible for people to get angry about.

Fire Emblem's already pretty heavily censored so it's not really a hypothetical it's the reality of the franchise and has been since it first came here. Just look at how changed Fates was.

I know people joke about "tiny company Nintendo," but they really aren't that big in the grand scheme of major Japanese companies (for reference, Konami also specializes in exercise equipment; Bandai Namco is freaking Bandai Namco). There's a reason Nintendo farmed the Mario Bros. movie out to Illumination and stuck to just licensing their IP out--they have money, but they don't have "feature-length production" money! I'd hazard that Nintendo not going into movies has likely saved them a lot of headaches (see: Square Enix, née Squaresoft)

It seems like hubris to think we actually matter just as much as the Japanese audiences to most Japanese artists.

Fire Emblem's already pretty heavily censored so it's not really a hypothetical it's the reality of the franchise and has been since it first came here.

I It seems like hubris to think we actually matter just as much as the Japanese audiences to most Japanese artists. Maybe you can name a few Japanese artists you saw who speak English and address their western fanbase regularly but most Japanese creators can't speak English and don't interact with people outside their native country nor seem to want to in my experience.