Forum - View topicNEWS: Major Manga, Manhwa Pirate Site Bato.to Shuts Down; Chinese Man Suspected as Operator Detained
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Yuvelir
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I thought bato.to had been dead for the better part of a decade?
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pip25
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It changed hands multiple times, I believe. When it was first sold, it stopped hosting scanlations, but they returned some time later. Now it's dead again. |
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Sevokevo Royuki
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I am so glad I exited out of pirating when I was still new and young to it... Yes I admitted I help on OTHER sites for ANIME but these sites have since been disbanded and I have turned away from doing things like that again... its a headache and I knew early on that this could lead up to getting in major trouble.. which is why I parted ways.... This was over 10 years ago when I was younger and stupid to the world..
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RobbiRobb
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Well, the piracy hydra will continue. Kill of one site and two new sites will pop up. It's a losing battle and although there will always people who will pirate stuff, it still is very much a service problem.
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-Matthew-
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And when people CAN'T BUY? Think about it? |
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Sevokevo Royuki
Posts: 340 Location: Texas |
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It does not matter, at the end of the day whether you like It or not, it’s considered stealing… I learned this in that time and moved away from it and decided to my best to help support the works and the authors who’s living is base on this works. |
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TheSeventhSense
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Viz posting an anti-piracy statement about this is hilarious when they refuse to reprint old manga in high demand, or finish the ones they've left off. Even if they do reprint it, the good ol' Crunchyroll Store will be like "nope, that's not in high enough demand" and cancel your order as just happened with someone and Eyeshield 21.
This is genuinely the worst time to be a fan. The 2000s and early 10s were exciting and still enough of a niche it felt like companies were run by people who actually gave a shit. Now we have an abundance of slop, no print volumes under $12, and manga sites getting shut down because they refuse to not carry manhwa slop because they just HAVE to have all the revenue possible from their malware ads. |
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chronos02
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As always, kill one of these, and 10 new ones will pop out, it's a fruitless effort if the objective is to stop gray area services and actual piracy from existing. This is only a matter of spreading fear to would be activists of this movement, if they can be called that; and, again, it's a fruitless effort, millions spent on stopping something that could be controlled and damages minimized. Of course, they can then spread news of how good they are at protecting the interests and IPs under their wing! ...
I also honestly doubt the statement "sales doubled after the shut down" is even close to the truth, even if sales doubled, there are a plethora of reasons for this to happen, they could have synched the operation to happen with projected increases, market fluctuations, and a lot of other plausible and more realistic reasons. Let's remember if one site goes down, there are plenty others out there with the same thing cloned, as aggregators of this kind don't have any kind of problem reposting stuff posted elsewhere and concentrating any and all content into their own servers just to drive traffic, and thus, revenue from ads. Would "free readers" really go buy when they can simply go to alternate site B, C, D...? The same applies to supposed "losses" incurred during the period these sites are up and running, you can bet they don't take into account simple things such as there existing more than 200 of these sites, which by their very existence would divide by a number between 2 and 200 the supposed "losses", as most readers jump form one site to another for several reasons: when one dies, they go to the next, and yet, the numbers posted always seem to overlap with the lifetime between these sites. Of course, let's not get into how they calculate the losses themselves, something that has never been disclosed in a non-obfuscated and clear cut way. Now, about batoto, the page was dead since the 2010s or so iirc, and was later "bought" by a third party, switching from a compliance abiding page (from what I remember anyway) that removed chapters when requested by the publishers, to one that inundated the page with ads and god knows what else. Good riddance. Anyway, sad to see these businesses proudly announcing such things instead of solving the underlying issue of their extremely poor service offerings. They are replicating the exact issue with cable TV, and currently also most streaming services, but they are far worse, with gamified "coins" and convoluted reading "quotas", series split around for no reason, and seriously inconvenient and clunky UIs with a UX that would make a good chunk of online casino devs cry. Oh, and let's remember, what is happening on the streaming services segment? right, piracy is booming again... Ridiculous, that is what the situation is. Valve did it, you guys can do it too, stop being dumb, for real. |
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Blanchimont
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Majority of the manga series I read have no official English releases, and half of that is content an English publisher would only touch under duress. Half of the official manga platforms are region-blocked here. As long as that reality stays, hydra will live, no matter how many heads you chop off..
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OtomeGay
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Feeling this. I'm a fan of shojo, josei, and vintage manga, and so many titles I'm interested in will likely never see the light of day in English. |
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Blanchimont
Posts: 3848 Location: Finland |
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I can give an example, Tabi Gal! Nihon Juudan Chari Kikou, short travel manga of 3 volumes about a gyaru traveling Japan with a bike, from 2020, not likely to ever be licensed here in the West, removed in the 'purge' on m****x site last Spring. Why I mention that specifically? Because I was just reading it again as another scanlator started it from scratch. Of course the other purged chapters can easily be found on other 'sites'. Or what about Gensou Gourmet, a charming manga adaptation with great art about a guy going on a food tour in another world inhabited by a multitude of races and fantastical architecture, complete at 7 volumes (2016-2020), likewise removed in the 'purge'. Likewise easily findable 'elsewhere'. Likewise not likely to ever get an English publication. Or I could easily mention the myriads of other titles likewise stuck in the same place.. |
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EmeraldSaucer
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I love when people point out the obvious issue of "how am I supposed to support the author if publishers don't provide people with a reasonable avenue to do so, losing money in the process for no reason" the only response from anti-piracy folks is "it doesn't matter, shut up". Really showing how well-supported a stance it is lol |
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Sorraffy
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just look at one of ANN's headlines: "Kenichi the Mightiest Disciple Gets New Sequel Manga in March" .. Kenichi 1 manga has never received an english release. Even if they started now and released 1 volume per month, it would still take 5+ years to release all of it! |
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lucio542
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These people don't know that, think that everyone can pay 51824 sites and buy manga and etc (when you can even do that, we know that 95% of times you just can't if you are not live in a english or french speaking country, and even then there is WAY more than what there is disponible). If i had to pay for everything i have read or watched i would need to be a milionaire or multi milionaire. In my country depending on the anime or set is a month's wage for one set of Blu-ray, thats just impossible haha. But well i am grateful for everyone who can do their part, and believe that atleast promotes anime to other people that can buy, well atleast i don't upload anything (tried it on youtube in 2014 and lost my account, good old days when i didn't know copyright laws....) And there is more, i play Visual Novels and read novels, how can i be stealing when we don't even have sales for it here?(maybe 0.1~0,2% have but...almost neglibible) don't tell me the japanese are going to say "hur dur we are losing money because of people on Brasil downloading our games", no way dude, they didn't count on that obviously. |
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Saya_Shisuki
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there will be no hydra model anymore..as new AI system will detect similar even 5% and will delete the domain instant..this is called "dynamic injection" new introduced AI model... |
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