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shirokiryuu
Posts: 714 Location: Northern California (SF Bay Area) |
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I noticed that japanese and american fanart in general seem to have different styles.
I have not trouble judging american fanart to japanese ones (though i've seen some american fanart stray the border) It is also how i can tell manhwa from manga just from style is there any reason why mangas from certain areas look different? |
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DarkTenshi90
 Posts: 440 Location: Nebraska |
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oO I wondered the same thing. Like, in American manga, the looks tend to be different than that of Japan, and I've noticed Manwha to have a lot more detail in the faces compared to manga. (Well, what I think, anyway). Maybe it's because you see so much of some art that you tend to get that drawing style in ya. I really, really am not sure, in fact, at all. I would love to know just like you would.
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shirokiryuu
Posts: 714 Location: Northern California (SF Bay Area) |
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I also noticed that american art and some manhwa have darker lines and use a lot of tone
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Azathrael
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What the hell is "American manga"? You mean "American cartoon" or "American comics", right? |
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shirokiryuu
Posts: 714 Location: Northern California (SF Bay Area) |
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like OEL, anime-inspired cartoons, ot anime styled webcomics, etc. even though manga technically through the mind of fans is only japanese, it's easier to get the idea if i say "manga" |
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MonkeyFunk
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So, what country would you say this came from?
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DarkTenshi90
Posts: 440 Location: Nebraska |
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I meant exactly what I said. It would be nice if you knew what "manners" are when you talk, because the way that you had the question written, it was offensive. Anyway, yes, there is a such thing as American Manga. Go check out Tokyopop.com some time, and try to be nicer because the language was uncalled for. 
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Tetsujin
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So if non-Japanese admit to the existence of American Manga, why won't non-Japanese admit there is American Anime?
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shirokiryuu
Posts: 714 Location: Northern California (SF Bay Area) |
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*regrets using the word american manga* because fans are very picky on what some words means and will bash any "wanna-bes", etc. and all that stuff |
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Patachu
Past ANN Contributor
 Posts: 1325 Location: San Diego |
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It's because of the languages that children are taught when they begin to read and write. Japanese children learn kana, and soon afterward, kanji, which hardwires a particular set of pen-strokes into their hands. Equipped with these particular strokes in their muscle memory, Japanese children who eventually develop drawing skills and go into manga will never stray too far from hand movements that are derived from the basic language-elements of written Japanese. Even though there are a kajillion styles of Japanese manga, they are all drawn by hands that were taught, in written communication, to use the Japanese language. They may be fluent in other languages as well, but Japanese comes first. English-speaking children (which can extend to Americans, Canadians, British, Australians, and a surprising number of other countries around the world) learn the 26-letter Roman alphabet. As a result, these children program a very different set of pen-strokes into their muscle memories, creating a writing and drawing hand that no Japanese-born-and-raised person could ever have. As a result, all comic and illustration art created by English-speaking artists is inherently different from Japanese artists because their hands are trained in motions that can more easily produce Latin/Roman alphabet language-elements. Of course, there are a kajillion styles of comic art, just as there are a kajillion types of English-language handwriting, but they are all derived from the same hand movements that were trained in childhood to produce the 26 letters. And even if they were trained to write in Chinese or Japanese as well, if these artists had a predominantly English-language schooling, then it stands to reason that their preferred form of written communication is in English. Thus their basic hand movements in drawing are guided by the foundations of how to write in that language. That's why manhwa is presumably different as well -- the Korean writing system is a whole other entity from Japanese, Chinese and English character sets, so you have an entirely different set of artists' hands by the time Korean children have learned to read and write. And once you get into OEL -- where artists of a particular tradition consciously blend in elements of another, highly stylized and indigenous art tradition -- that's how you can still tell. You simply can't change the mother language that a person has learned, even if they merge art styles from all over the world. |
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shirokiryuu
Posts: 714 Location: Northern California (SF Bay Area) |
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wow. that is just a great explanation =D
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DarkTenshi90
Posts: 440 Location: Nebraska |
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o.o I definately learned something today.
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liquidsolid
 Posts: 65 Location: India( The Hell above HELL!!) |
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So does that mean that the roman alphabet is more suited to drawing than the japanese alphabet. Or does the drawing depend on the person who is drawing it? |
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Patachu
Past ANN Contributor
Posts: 1325 Location: San Diego |
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It just means that artists will have a different approach to drawing depending on the language they first learned to write. Neither one is "better." Still, it depends very much on the person -- your art style will be influenced by what you find visually pleasing, and what kind of training you get -- but language development as a child is the very fundamental root of it all. (At least, that's my nutty theory. This has never been confirmed or studied by anyone else as far as I know.) |
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huh?
 Posts: 130 Location: playing trumpet w/ jesus |
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the long explanation makes sense but this may be something to think about. american manga kind of emulate their japanese counterparts, therefore characters come out looking somewhat exxagerated as with all immitations. on the other hand the japanese manga are not attempting to have a manga style, they just do.
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