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FireballDragon
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:41 am
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Might be wishful thinking on my part, but I really hope Kinnikuman ends up getting a proper English release like this as well.
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Lord Geo
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:50 am
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FireballDragon wrote: | Might be wishful thinking on my part, but I really hope Kinnikuman ends up getting a proper English release like this as well. |
Unfortunately, that'll be a never-ending wish. Kinnikuman is both longer & older than Fist, even without taking into consideration it's return a decade ago (which now makes it literally more than twice as long!), the Ultimate Muscle manga was a notorious bomb that apparently became a sort of black sheep at Viz, and there's been no new efforts for the franchise on the anime front ever since the UM manga's final volume came out. At least Fist of the North Star has had a decade+ of new anime productions & re-releases of the old stuff in North America that have allowed it to see a bit of a resurgence in fan appreciation.
And I say this as someone who absolutely loved Ultimate Muscle, and would absolutely love to own the OG manga as well.
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Grant D Clown
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:07 pm
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I too would absolutely kill for an official Kinnikuman release.
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ryanvamp
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:52 pm
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Am I the only one that thinks the first half of Hokuto no Ken is an absolute classic while the 2nd half gets rarely discussed or re-adapted because it retcons crucial details of characters that almost ruins the story as a whole ?
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cookiemanstah
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:05 pm
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ryanvamp wrote: | Am I the only one that thinks the first half of Hokuto no Ken is an absolute classic while the 2nd half gets rarely discussed or re-adapted because it retcons crucial details of characters that almost ruins the story as a whole ? |
no you're not the only one. Furthermore, there are 3 parts including the post-Kaioh events.
But the series concludes just fine post-Raoh.
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Grant D Clown
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:40 pm
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Those early sections are SO iconic. But then again, I think most would agree that HnK goes a bit too long - once again, setting the rule for all shonen fighting stuff going forward
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:46 pm
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Editors not wanting to cancel the series, and well, you see what happens. Even the ultra faithful second Hokuto Musou game essentially fast forwarded from Kaioh to the last arc.
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Lord Geo
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:02 pm
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Grant D Clown wrote: | Those early sections are SO iconic. But then again, I think most would agree that HnK goes a bit too long - once again, setting the rule for all shonen fighting stuff going forward |
Oh, Fist wasn't exactly the standard setter for shonen fighting manga going on for longer than intended; it was just one of the more notable ones. This has been a thing with Shonen Jump since the very beginning, since the magazine's first real hit in the late 60s & early 70s, Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daisho by Hiroshi Motomiya (which helped inspire Tetsuo Hara to become a mangaka, in fact), literally tried to end early by killing off its lead character, only for the editor to use correction tape (i.e. White Out) to remove the killing blow & even the kanji for "End" before it went to print. Motomiya then had to make the next chapter be about how everyone got the lead to the hospital to save his life, before continuing the series. Then, after being allowed to end Gaki Daisho, Motomiya had to return to it once again after his next manga bombed, before finally being allowed to end it, once & for all.
I mean... damn.
To no surprise, Motomiya actually banned anything past Volume 11 of Gaki Daisho to ever get re-released until 2018, when he finally dropped the ban for Jump's 50th Anniversary. To be fair, that's a completely justified thing to do, I'd argue. I don't know if Hara & Buronson had it better or worse, honestly.
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Grant D Clown
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:05 pm
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Fair point!
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Scion Drake
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:08 pm
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ryanvamp wrote: | Am I the only one that thinks the first half of Hokuto no Ken is an absolute classic while the 2nd half gets rarely discussed or re-adapted because it retcons crucial details of characters that almost ruins the story as a whole ? |
Your not no, its a common opinion that the quality declines after the Raoh Saga.
Which makes sense when you find out the creators originally intended to end Ken after the Raoh Saga but were forced to continue it because the series was too popular, scrambling them to come up with new content after they had decided to end it.
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JoelBurger
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:04 pm
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ryanvamp wrote: | Am I the only one that thinks the first half of Hokuto no Ken is an absolute classic while the 2nd half gets rarely discussed or re-adapted because it retcons crucial details of characters that almost ruins the story as a whole ? |
Even ignoring retcons the 2nd half isn't very well written. And then manages to get even worse once Ken leaves Asura and the manga just sort of meanders for a couple volumes until it limps to the finish line.
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