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meiam



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:57 pm Reply with quote
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The fact that Nana went from an editor who rejected all of her ideas because they didn't fit his personal preferences to an editor who seems to give her plenty of space to let her creativity blossom was actually really sweet and explains so much.


It was more that he was pushing her to do work that was more in line with whats popular. Its easy to criticize that aspect, but popular slop works (as the literal hundreds of isekai show perfectly illustrate) while exploring creative idea often flounder. Publisher are a business first and foremost, Nana was lucky that her work paid off, but I'm sure publisher have to churn trough dozen of authors that fail to make a return to find the few that do.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 8:58 am Reply with quote
That Toda guy really seems to be a terrible editor. I wonder if he'll ever be given any redeeming qualities.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:22 pm Reply with quote
So I don't know much about the economic of manga, but can a single monthly series really be enough to keep two employees (artist + full time assistant) employed, plus pay for a significant share of the editor and occasional assistant?

It seems like her working on more than one series at once should be the goal from the beginning, she has a full month to make every chapter, its reasonable that she struggle at first, but at some point she should get much faster.
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"Time to meet the legal wife." Hopefully, one day.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:00 pm Reply with quote
You raise a valid point. Would you consider that it might be because it's another culture, and in that context, Kaede's actions might be more valid?
I did not feel troubled by her actions. i wonder if we share similarities regarding Asian culture, how we feel about power distance (boss vs employee closeness) and motivation towards success (consensus vs being decisive).
It is a bit "us vs you" because we are entire continents and we've been crossing countries before we were countries, so we share a lot (similar to well, I'm assuming you are US, or your influence is predominantly US, and shares many things common with Europe).
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Part way through the episode my jaw dropped at Toda's unconscious and obnoxious sexism. "Who cares about shogi? It's a women's magazine!" While conversing with a woman who is clearly intrigued by the idea. May he wish to become decent.
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An Unchosen One



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meiam wrote:
So I don't know much about the economic of manga, but can a single monthly series really be enough to keep two employees (artist + full time assistant) employed, plus pay for a significant share of the editor and occasional assistant?

It seems like her working on more than one series at once should be the goal from the beginning, she has a full month to make every chapter, its reasonable that she struggle at first, but at some point she should get much faster.

Even putting aside what Ha-san says about Nana already struggling with To Subaru, the vast majority of mangaka do only one series at a time, regardless of whether they're weekly, monthly, irregular, or on any other schedule. Even cases like Nishi Osamu writing and drawing Welcome To Demon School while just writing Ichi The Witch are rare, let alone both writing and drawing different series at the same time.

Funnily enough, the creator of the very manga this is based on has herself been working on multiple series simultaneously for most of her career, but that's probably the reason she handled this part the way she did, as she knows firsthand what it's like.
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Part way through the episode my jaw dropped at Toda's unconscious and obnoxious sexism. "Who cares about shogi? It's a women's magazine!" While conversing with a woman who is clearly intrigued by the idea. May he wish to become decent.

Considering the stories that have been shared about male editors for shoujo magazines, he's likely based on the ones she's heard about, maybe even at least one she's met, so stuff like that is probably the point of his character, and based on his last appearance in the manga, it'd take a harsh humbling for him to ever get better even by the time the series is done.
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Bleys wrote:
Part way through the episode my jaw dropped at Toda's unconscious and obnoxious sexism. "Who cares about shogi? It's a women's magazine!" While conversing with a woman who is clearly intrigued by the idea. May he wish to become decent.


Masayuki Toda is a throwaway tertiary character used solely to drive the plot, which is why we (thankfully IMO) see so little of him. "In world" Nana Futami and Kaede Satō obviously hate the guy and would probably choose being late to an appointment rather than getting on the same bus or train as him.

March Comes In like a Lion is on its 18th year so a manga centering on shogi (not the Asobi Asobase kind of shogi) obviously has potential (and most readers of the manga/watchers of the anime would likely be aware of that).
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 2:19 pm Reply with quote
I liked the nod to Amayo no Tsuki (Moon on a Rainy Night) in the ideas Futami would like to work on in the future.

I hope this anime airing shakes loose an English license for the manga. I've read up through Vol 3 (I think it's up to Vol 13, at least) and would really like some more time with this crew.
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An Unchosen One



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akitainu wrote:
I liked the nod to Amayo no Tsuki (Moon on a Rainy Night) in the ideas Futami would like to work on in the future.

The original chapter came out a while before Moon on a Rainy Night started, so it's probably not a direct nod. Kuzushiro likely had started to work on it by that point, but I'm not sure it would have even been announced at the time.

There will, however, be a couple of pretty direct connections later…
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I hope this anime airing shakes loose an English license for the manga. I've read up through Vol 3 (I think it's up to Vol 13, at least) and would really like some more time with this crew.

I'm not sure how popular the anime might be in NA, but Moon on a Rainy Night seems to be very well received, so hopefully this show is also being watched enough that it does help lead to an official English release of the manga.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 7:57 am Reply with quote
Episode 11:
I didn't catch it until they were in the park, but I went back and sure enough, Amano (shogi queen from Ep 10) is in the background of every spot on the Arisa/Touko date. They were apparently being double tailed.
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An Unchosen One



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 8:49 am Reply with quote
The first episode changed the more risqué imaginings Nana had, but I'm kinda surprised Takizawa's line about Arisa's second draft was also toned down; in the manga, she says it comes across as the perspective of a male virgin. It's a little jarring after they adapted Nagomi's introduction with minimal alterations, but like the first episode, I'd say the change still works.
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Episode 11:
I didn't catch it until they were in the park, but I went back and sure enough, Amano (shogi queen from Ep 10) is in the background of every spot on the Arisa/Touko date. They were apparently being double tailed.

She's a major character from the original creator's shogi manga (where Touko is also a recurring character), so I'm curious if that's just Voil including her as a continued cameo from the previous episode or if she did indeed tail them because she caught wind of the date.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 6:58 pm Reply with quote
Oikawa Kanon sighted. I love stuff like that.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 5:47 pm Reply with quote
...this episode hit me hard in all the right places.

I was writing emails today to people I met by chance, online and in-person, all of whom have radically changed my life for the better. Then I was discussing things with folks I met online in three separate communities (including the folks here at ANN) and thinking how much they have changed my life for the better.

It may all be by chance, but manga has brought me so many wonderful connections, so to watch these characters expressing the same sentiment was, well, sentimental. Anime smile
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 6:53 am Reply with quote
I also felt like that episode was wrapping up the season (albeit abruptly since there's usually some kind of "life goes on...in the manga!" narration to wrap up a show) only to find out we get one more episode. This show has been my favorite of the season and I'll miss it when it's over. Afaict, the manga is not officially licensed in English, so this may end up being the end of the line.
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