Forum - View topicNEWS: Otr of the Flame Manga Ends, Weekly Shonen Jump Magazine Launches 3 New Manga
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Gem-Bug
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I didn't read either series, but it sucks when a Mangaka's series get chopped less than a year in. I know Hunter's Guild had a lot of fans.
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Riku157
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This is surprising to me, but I'm just going based off of what I see in Mangaplus. So guessing the physical numbers and/or viewership in Japan wasn't as high as on that app.
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SleepOverFunction
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The series has been on the bottom 3 of the magazine rankings pretty much for it's entire run and to make matters worse both of it's volume sales have been pretty weak. |
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BaronViolet
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What's the point of publishing new manga if the company is just going to cancel them in the next few months!?
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chronium
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I liked the story so I'm sad to see it end so soon but I didn't like how the action was drawn so I stopped following it but I would have followed it again if a anime adaptation happened.
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Connor Dino
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The point is to see what will have legs. A series that is consistently at the bottom of the pack for over 6 months is unlikely to turn things around. While I think the magazine can be pretty heartless, the business side of this decision makes sense. No one will remember this manga in a year. Sorry. |
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BaronViolet
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Kindly speak for yourself and don't speak for others! I will remember the wasted potential because some people both in and outside the manga industry are bloody impatient. Seriously they keep bloody Boruto around and that series is rubbish. The only reason it lasted this long (too lkng) is because it is a poorly sequal to Naruto and fans are buying it out of blind nostalgia. No offense to all nauto fans but it is true.
SJ is cancelling far too many manga instead of giving them a shot or properly promoting them. Is it any wonder I stopped buying anything with SJ on the front. |
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EmeraldSaucer
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People crying about Jump being axe heavy is so funny, because they are considerably more lenient now than they used to be. Jump's history from the 70s to about the late 2000s is full of manga that didn't even get to 15 chapters before they decided to cut the chord. A series like Otr that lost steam pretty quickly would never have been given over 30 chapters to try to find its footing not that long ago
Anyways this isn't particularly surprising, over the last couple months the writing was on the wall, especially when Kawaguchi was awkwardly shoving the endless exposition spouting Ice King and a faceless demon lord into the story (in a way that makes this a kinda worse ending than Red Hood, since it lacks even the metatextual element that made the latter a bit memorable) |
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Heishi
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Why does Shonen Jump hate muscle women so much?
First they kill off Star and Stripe in MHA, then they cancel two of this guy’s manga. How disappointing. |
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BadNewsBlues
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If it was in fact a poor sequel it would’ve been canceled ages ago. Even better it precisely runs in a monthly magazine. |
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Riku157
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For a for profit company, quality isn't what matters the most. What matters the most is profit. So even if people dislike Boruto due to its quality, it still pulls in big numbers which ensures its continuation over other series. Even people who dislike Boruto still read/watch it to see what happens in it. I don't even care much about Boruto, but still skim read the chapters when they're released just to see what's happening. Lol |
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EmeraldSaucer
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It doesn't pull in particularly big numbers, it tapered off quickly with volumes settling into a comfortably mediocre (for being the sequel to one of the biggest manga of all time) pattern of less than 100k sales over a couple months. But this is also why Boruto has been in V Jump and not Weekly Jump for almost 7 years lol |
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Blaze_1013
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This just isn't true. While not a lot of short lived series go on to be remembered, some certainly do. Red Hood still has its fans and I know I still lament Phantom Seer not having made it. A lot of cool stuff exists in the Jump graveyard.
Look, I have no ides what Boruto's reception in Japan is, but it clearly isn't THAT bad. After all when Kishimoto tried doing a new series after Naruto it fell on its face and didn't even last a year. Same with the series by I believe the Tokyo Revengers mangaka. Just having an impressive name attached, be it creator or series, isn't enough to make something a sure thing. Boruto is still around because a not insignificant number of people follow it. Also, it doesn't even run in Weekly Shonen Jump so I don't think that is a fair comparison to begin with. And Jump HAS been giving series a lot more breathing room to find their feet. A few years ago Otr wouldn't have lasted half as long as it did. Hell, Red Hood was about half as long as Otr. I get being upset when promising series are cut short. I know I'm still afraid of Hima-Ten! not getting to tell the full story the mangaka wants since it isn't THAT popular even if it has stuck around for over 70s chapters now. I know a lot of series still don't break past 20 chapters. But thats just how hard it is to make it in the industry. WSJ series are still so genre defining and that is partly because of how aggressive they are at looking for talent and making space in the magazine. Will any of the new series that take Otr's place be the next big thing, probably not. But you never know when you'll have a Kagurabachi or Ichi the Witch. |
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Wyvern
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It's a shame, I loved Otr's art style, even though the writing was just average. This feels like the kind of manga that a creator cuts their teeth on before they come back in a few years with a big hit. Kind of like how Horikoshi had to endure two major flops (Barrage and that...zoo thing whose name I forget) before he created My Hero Academia.
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immortal1982
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Every Jump series gets at least 3-4 volumes max to sell their story. If you cannot do that by that point, you've failed. You also should look at it from the opposite angle, truly successful series are the outliers. Yes, the under 19 chapter club exists, but you have to have bombed out before the first volume is even published to get to that point.
The audience and the publisher do not have time for mediocrity. |
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