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prime_pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 12:17 am |
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Jesus, parody sucks nowadays. Can't even honor a brand of toilet paper without getting a cease and desist.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 12:31 am |
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I never cease to be amazed by the insane restrictions that a lack of fair use protection in Japanese law causes.
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Takkun4343
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 6:17 am |
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Between this, Mr. Osomatsu's missing first episode and the unceremonious cancellation of AoT Abridged, the fellows at Pony Canyon sure are a litigious bunch.
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L'Imperatore
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 6:25 am |
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Chill, PC. Geez.
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SinisterOracle
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 12:07 pm |
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No one was harmed by this so it’s not the end of the world.
I’d hate to be the person(s) who had that job for a series like Ugly Betty with its extensive use of pop culture references. What a nightmare.
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ZelosZoidberg
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 4:29 pm |
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Sucks because Sgt Frog is well know for parodying other series. I guess the only way you can parody a series in Japan now a days is if you go the Gintama route.
I always find it weird that doujin works are for the most part allowed due to a "look the other way" attitude and stuff like this isn't allowed. Poke'mon fanart actually (in Japan) is the sole property of Nintendo. About the only thing that is safe is Touhou Project.
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Slop Slop no Mi
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 5:30 pm |
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Here's hoping Bandai Namco gets sued for blatant copyright infringement like that and using someone else's IP for a parody without permission. Take em to the cleaners, Kodansha.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 5:36 pm |
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Japan takes its proprietary rights extremely serious.
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Chiyosuke
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 8:09 pm |
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| Slop Slop no Mi wrote: | | Here's hoping Bandai Namco gets sued for blatant copyright infringement like that and using someone else's IP for a parody without permission. Take em to the cleaners, Kodansha. |
Meanwhile, we're in the middle of Wistoria...
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FinalVentCard
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 8:16 pm |
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| ZelosZoidberg wrote: | |
I always find it weird that doujin works are for the most part allowed due to a "look the other way" attitude and stuff like this isn't allowed. Poke'mon fanart actually (in Japan) is the sole property of Nintendo. About the only thing that is safe is Touhou Project. |
Doujinshi in Japan is in a "grey market" area; its saving grace is that doujinka are very respectful of creator wishes. So they only produce so much of any given doujinshi, and they absolutely do not turn a profit from it. They only make enough to make back whatever paid for printing fees. It is done purely for the love of the game. That so many doujin-ka are also industry people (freelance animators/artists, known mangaka, freelance assistants, etc) also gives them a bit of an excuse, because it's not only a possible seedbed for new talent but also people just do in their spare time.
And remember, doujinshi encompasses more than fan comics--it's anything that's made by amateurs. So there are original doujin media, from novels to music to photography.
The catch is that doujinka say "How high?" when the license holders say "Jump." So when Tsuburaya says, "Hey, don't make Akane Shinjo porn, at least for a few months," the doujinka concede because a) they don't wanna piss where they eat, and b) they're fans and they want to respect the creator's wishes.
So much stuff in Japan revolves around permission. Gintama has to bleep out whenever he talks about Dragon Ball (even though they run in the same magazine!), while Bo-BoBo can have Yugi Moto popping out of his afro because the mangaka asked Kazuki Takahashi on a whim and Takahashi was game for it.
It's just a different cultural viewpoint that is rather incompatible to how folks in America do stuff.
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ZelosZoidberg
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 10:11 pm |
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^Couldn't have said it better myself. "Grey area" is a great term for it. I think I remember you or the old answer man describing the whole thing and the fact that some of them who got real famous could not reprint or even disrepute the old work (paid or free) was a real eye opener. Like you said it's part of their culture. It was not too long ago that the Japanese fans were butting heads with western fans over a discontinue mobile game getting private/pirated servers.
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Zased
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2026 5:32 pm |
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| FinalVentCard wrote: | | The catch is that doujinka say "How high?" when the license holders say "Jump." So when Tsuburaya says, "Hey, don't make Akane Shinjo porn, at least for a few months," the doujinka concede because a) they don't wanna piss where they eat, and b) they're fans and they want to respect the creator's wishes. |
Most people, anyway. I've seen plenty of Japanese artists making Uma Musume porn despite the requests not to and Cygames rule that you shouldn't. Not all will abide by it but overall Japan does respect copyright a lot more than over countries do when it comes to parodies or even things like doing streams or let's plays of game and asking permission before doing so.
It does make parody a bit hard, but perhaps it's not all bad given it means more creativity has to be put in than just falling back on references and parodies.
One thing I always wonder is if this only applies to Japanese media though. Seen my fare share of blatant parodies and lifts from American 80s and 90s movies or even including copyrighted music. I'm assuming they don't ask for permission from Universal or Paramount... maybe foreign works are more open to being parodied.
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