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sj21



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:06 pm Reply with quote
Alright here you can say your favourite, average or most hated anime movie titles. SO choose roughly 3. and tell why you hated, like or loved that title.

here's mine.

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Nausicaa of the valley of wind
i thought the plot was nice and liked the enviornment plot. The movie was cool and had alot of nice action. the ending really kept you guessing and thought it was one of the best Ghibli films.

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Howl's moving castle
This movie i hated. I wasted 2 hours on this on cartoonetwork and i was excited at first wanting to see every preview on CN and i saw it and there was like no action. I thought some of it was too childish and it fell under one of those type of Ghibli films that you just can't like.

So thats mine, what do you have to offer.
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joshuafer



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:15 pm Reply with quote
I too own Nausicaa, and I like it for a lot of reasons, including the reason it was the first anime I had ever watched, way back in the day.

I also have Ninja Scroll, which I like for all the cool and whacked out fights, and of course a bad ass main character always helps !

I will pick for my third one Spriggan, which I also like for the well animated fights, and the odd villians ( heh fatman and little boy, psychic killer kids are creepy ! ).
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zawa113



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:56 am Reply with quote
First, Metropoilis. Favorite of my anime movies without a doubt. I liked the Tezuka like world (yes, I know its barely based off the manga whatsoever), but I found the characters and plot interesting and suspensful. It does hold a similarity with Astro Boy in humans vs robots to be sure (and I dig that).

Next, Tokyo Godfathers. I find this movie both refreshing and genuinely warming to the soul. The three main characters' backgrounds are explored and the movie is a joy to watch through the end.

Last, my most hated movie ever made, Grave of the Fireflies. Thank God I only rented this, and if I fully explain why I hate it, I would most certainly ramble on. But basically, I hate the characters and my hatred of this movie stems from hating the boy in particular.
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Boomerang Flash



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:36 am Reply with quote
For the first, I have, at last, found a movie that toppled Castle in the Sky from its position as my former favorite. It is The Girl Who Leapt Through Time. This is a science fiction story about a school girl who finds a product of futuristic science--one that allows her to leap and return to a moment of her choice--and the things that she did with the leaps. The stunts that Makoto pulled with her new-found abilities are all believable wishes of your average student. While they are spoiler[sometimes underhanded, the offenses are light enough that they are forgivable and produce amused laughter.] Many things that she does--impulsively and somewhat irresponsibly, but never maliciously--spoiler[come back to haunt her, leading to an epiphany and a redemption that are both touching and elucidating without being didactic.] The story recalls strongly the many antics of Nobita with Doraemon's gadgets, but Makoto is a much more likable character spoiler[whose conscience and intelligence pick at her even as she has her fun.]

For the second, it's hard for me to remember average movies and series, since they are rather forgettable, but I did manage to recall this one. Armitage III: Dual Matrix left no strong impressions either way. The CG was acceptable but obviously not up to par with those of the video game industry. The fighting was well-animated but not particularly well choreographed. The story worked enough to lead to the action scenes, but it relied on one having knowledge of Armitage III. Even with said knowledge, there are many unexplained points. The result is a rather hurried and confusing storyline enmeshed in some decent action scenes.

For the last, the movie I found most disappointing is Metropolis. Its premise makes the pretension of addressing the issues of a human-robotic society--as either a metaphor for racism and class division or as a matter to be taken at face value--and humankind's attempt to create intelligence. However, it fails miserably on both points. The class struggle that existed was shown briefly--too briefly. The result was that it relied on knowledge of more fleshed out dystopian revolutions such as Wells' When the Sleeper Wakes to guess at the motivations and dynamics that occurred in the movie.

The only result of the class struggle was spoiler[doing away with Pero,] which was only one of the few examples of the horrible character development in the movie. I gathered that Pero's relationship with the Bans was meant to be something touching, but the matter was given too little time to develop into anything near that which existed between Elijah Baley and R. Daneel Olivaw. Similarly, we jump from Tima spoiler[being a complete tabula rasa to her being an imprinted chick upon Keichi and calling his name in the matter of a single scene switch,] producing the feeling of having missed something important and leaving the heroine a character towards whom it was difficult to feel sympathy. Fortunately, this made the ending more acceptable. It was unintelligible and seemed like a deus ex machina device to spoiler[topple the Tower of Babel and the city that built it, all the more so because it literally showed a dormant AI proclaimed as a deity and attempting to destroy the human population.]

Metropolis was the worst anime movie experience I've had. The only good things I have to say about the movie was the jazz music and the animation quality, but the animation budget was partially squandered on bizarre scenes like the automated firefighters.
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Zin5ki



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:34 am Reply with quote
Boomerang Flash wrote:

For the last, the movie I found most disappointing is Metropolis. Its premise makes the pretension of addressing the issues of a human-robotic society--as either a metaphor for racism and class division or as a matter to be taken at face value--and humankind's attempt to create intelligence. However, it fails miserably on both points. The class struggle that existed was shown briefly--too briefly. The result was that it relied on knowledge of more fleshed out dystopian revolutions such as Wells' When the Sleeper Wakes to guess at the motivations and dynamics that occurred in the movie.

The only result of the class struggle was spoiler[doing away with Pero,] which was only one of the few examples of the horrible character development in the movie. I gathered that Pero's relationship with the Bans was meant to be something touching, but the matter was given too little time to develop into anything near that which existed between Elijah Baley and R. Daneel Olivaw. Similarly, we jump from Tima spoiler[being a complete tabula rasa to her being an imprinted chick upon Keichi and calling his name in the matter of a single scene switch,] producing the feeling of having missed something important and leaving the heroine a character towards whom it was difficult to feel sympathy. Fortunately, this made the ending more acceptable. It was unintelligible and seemed like a deus ex machina device to spoiler[topple the Tower of Babel and the city that built it, all the more so because it literally showed a dormant AI proclaimed as a deity and attempting to destroy the human population.]

Metropolis was the worst anime movie experience I've had. The only good things I have to say about the movie was the jazz music and the animation quality, but the animation budget was partially squandered on bizarre scenes like the automated firefighters.

Like classicalzawa I love Metropolis more than any other anime.
I can understand some of your reasons for not liking it- as a film depicting a class struggle one can find fault with it. As a subtly romantic tragedy however I found it extremely effective, mainly due to the climax scene (in which I cried bucketloads). I shall admit that as such my adoration of this film is not exaclty objective.
I have not read any Asimov or Wells so perhaps I do not fully grasp your issues with this anime, but I nontheless feel some of the issues you have raised can be answered to. Please do not consider this as an attack on your judgement or knowledge, I respect your viewpoint and have no intention of causing an off topic argument.
It should be noted that Tima’s reaction to spoiler[Pero’s death] amongst other sightings of hatred towards robots may well have lead her to spoiler[act against her innate functions to control the city as opposed to destroy it once her kill switch is activated. Remember this lead to her make the other robots revolt, which in turn caused Rock to self-destruct the Ziggurat , showing that the class struggle did have an effect on the fate of the city.] That said, by the end I felt that the social climate of the city was not the most important aspect of the film. We see spoiler[the main character's entire life unfold] throughout the film, and as such I see the film not as Rintaro trying to make us feel compassionate towards "these robots" but simply towards "this robot".
I don't think Tima was a Tabula Rasa. Her rapid development of language suggests some sort of innate cognition and understanding of language. This “awakening”, when she quickly starts referring to Kenichi by name, can be explained with reference to Dr. Laughton's intentions- he secretly wanted spoiler[to take Tima away from the city and keep her], so perhaps therefore he programmed her to become emotionally attached to the first human she comes in contact with, against the will of Duke Red.
I felt sympathy for her quite readily. The fact that she is presented as completely innocent and yet is herself spoiler[the most destructive element of the Ziggurat], combined with her abject denial of being a robot on account of the fact spoiler[she claims to have "loved"] made it all the more heartwrenching to witness her spoiler[ slowly degnerating as she loses her humanity, only to remember it when it is too late for her to be saved by the only person who forgives her. Perhaps in light of who she really is she chose to lose grip.]
The retrofuturistic setting gives the production a resistance to ageing- the art-deco design of the city acts to suggest that the timeline the film takes place in is not so much the future of this world but that of a possible world envisaged by past thinkers. Such a choice can be seen as a respectful nod towards Fritz Lang.
I recognise the fact that this film is not the most adult-oriented title in its genre, nor is it the most original in premise, but the spoiler[tragic but not hopeless ending] gave it its identity amongst the other works which bear the same name. This was the first non-televised anime I saw and the first time I realised the animation medium could be tearjerking. spoiler[Good old Ray Charles.]

As for average film, I'd suggest something like Castle in the Sky. The premise, characters, music and artwork were all there, and the climax was certainly engaging, but I tire of Miyazaki's happy endings. James van der Beek's voice acting didn't improve things much.
Worst film: Pom Poko. I didn't like it because of the blatant environmentalism. I'll stick with The Raccoons I think.
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