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NEWS: Emiri Katō, Kaori Fukuhara Perform Inou Battle Within Everyday Life Anime's Ending Theme

Did I mention the MC has a lame ability? One of the girls has the ability of elements, isn't that basically include fire as well? Honestly the MC has some lame as Code Breaker/Flame of Recca knock off, and all the other girls have borderline story breaking power.

I feel like this will try to be a serious version of the manga that has the kid with spoon bending abilities, while all the other girls have impressive abilities like teleporting or lighting.

Then there is Rising Rydeen when the MC once again has an inferior ability to his harem, some kind of goo power.

I can probably think of 3 more show about school life comedy with esper like powers where the MC is kind lame.

I think its one thing to have a non fighting protagonist like Rito in To Love Ru, but if you are going to make the MC a "fighter" I think its stupid to make him seemingly the weaker than his harem, I mean who is this supposed to appeal to, a masochist?

Well the art looks amazing at least. Hopefully this won't just be an advertisement for the Light Novels like so many other shows these days.

relyat08 wrote:

Well the art looks amazing at least. Hopefully this won't just be an advertisement for the Light Novels like so many other shows these days.

When a LN gets an anime adaptation, I think a reason for doing an adap. is so that more people buy the LN.

I think its one thing to have a non fighting protagonist like Rito in To Love Ru, but if you are going to make the MC a "fighter" I think its stupid to make him seemingly the weaker than his harem, I mean who is this supposed to appeal to, a masochist?

Did I mention the MC has a lame ability? One of the girls has the ability of elements, isn't that basically include fire as well? Honestly the MC has some lame as Code Breaker/Flame of Recca knock off, and all the other girls have borderline story breaking power.

I feel like this will try to be a serious version of the manga that has the kid with spoon bending abilities, while all the other girls have impressive abilities like teleporting or lighting.

Then there is Rising Rydeen when the MC once again has an inferior ability to his harem, some kind of goo power.

I can probably think of 3 more show about school life comedy with esper like powers where the MC is kind lame.

I think its one thing to have a non fighting protagonist like Rito in To Love Ru, but if you are going to make the MC a "fighter"

I think its stupid to make him seemingly the weaker than his harem, I mean who is this supposed to appeal to, a masochist?

You could say that a lot of harem MC's should appeal to masochists, what with all the beatings they get from members of their harem.

Many harem series have a MC that has people question why any girl would be interested in them. In the action orientated harem series I've seen, the MC is either new to what they're doing (eg IS), they're usually getting beaten and/or saved by their harem...and something big has to happen for them to reveal their true power (eg DxD).

Well the art looks amazing at least. Hopefully this won't just be an advertisement for the Light Novels like so many other shows these days.

I know that is generally the case, but sometimes they actually do a good job of it and don't blatantly end on a cliff-hanger or cut out a lot of content making the show incoherent unless you pick up the LN or manga. Shows like Death Note and Bakuman are good examples of how to do it. I will actually buy the manga for shows like that since the creators actually respect anime as an art-form rather than an expensive advertisement.

^The only time you can be sure of an ending is if the source material is coming to its end.

Bakuman's final season was made about 6 months after the manga ended. Same for the Death Note anime adaption. Sadly, not a lot of properties get that treatment. The norm is that it is to boost an ongoing series' sales, be it manga or LN.

Hell, recently people were shocked that Working!! would be getting a 3rd season. Earlier in the year, the manga was said to be ending. And, with it, a lot of people gave up hope of a 3rd season because not a lot of manga/LNs get anime once they've finished up.

However I don't feel quite good that he has to rely on a hot water bottle to get his power working. That could be a handicap that could prove to be quite a problem (like what if he has no access to a hot water bottle or looses one), and yes compare to the other main characters that does make him a possible helpless member of the group.

I never like harem anime that resort to having the central male character get beat up for no good reason. It seems like an attempt to be funny, but it's not. For it to be funny the central character had to have done something to deserve it.

So that's the reason why some anime adaptations end on a high note. Though I think there are other reasons as well. This is one of my pet peeves with how anime shows are made. In this case the problem is for us who usually do not have access to the original stories (especially if those original stories were light novels). So people outside of Japan (or who can't read Japanese) are usually left hanging while everyone else can continue the story. A sole reason for an adaptation should not be to advertise the source material (that should be secondary if not an after thought as a result of the adaptations popularity).

All that makes me think of is Spider-Man and his webshooters. The need to refill will only be brought up when the writer wants it to play a part in adding suspense.

True, it is usually played off as comedy. And, it is usually tied to the MC doing something perverted...like accidentally falling on top of a girl and groping her breast(s) in the process or walking in on a female who is bathing/walking out of a bath.

Oh, and you also made mention of the MC being a pervert openly. Well, I've not seen many harem animes with a MC like that...but the one that sticks in my mind is Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero's MC. He was a capable fighter and a pervert. With that came some very mixed reactions from fans. Either that, or they go down the School Days route...

The MC, in most cases, is kind of like a blank and indecisive canvas. Many say that the reason they can be kind of bland is to allow the viewer to "self insert" and relate to the plight of the MC. I do believe that we need to be able to relate to characters, in some way, but I find the prototype for the harem MC to be a bit too much.

Don't get me wrong, I've watched some anime that are based on an ongoing manga/LN that finish off great. Personal favourites of mine that have done so recently are Kokoro Connect and Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou (English name escapes me for this 2nd series).

Thankfully, in Kawaisou's case, the manga is getting a western release through Crunchyroll (I hope it see print eventually). No one has touched the Kokoro Connect LNs, but the manga adaption is being released by Seven Seas. But, they are both anime that I view as having good endings...and I don't really need to read anything else to enjoy the way the anime ended.

As for why people watch harems, I usually do so for the romance and adventure/slice-of-life angle, along with hoping that "this harem will be the one where he chooses a girl in"...which usually is a hope that gets left unfilled.

I find this kind of method to work best in video games where the central character has very little or no dialogue at all (an example would by the main Pokémon games). Besides, who would really want to self insert themselves to such bland and weak characters? I can understand relating to characters and even self inserting oneself to one, but don’t see anyone who really wants to be the looser and constantly get physically abuse.
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As for finding the one which the main character get together with a girl I read there’s a reason why it never happens in harem. It has something to do with leaving it to the imagination of the audience watching it (usually in this case the male audience).

So have I. A few examples being Fullmental Alchemist and Death Note for me. Also the English translation for Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou is “We Are All From Dormitory Kawai”. Generally in English the story is known as “The Kawai Complex Guide to Manors and Hostel Behavior”. I looked the information up from Wikipedia. I also took the time to read story summaries of both series. Of the two I like plot for Hearts Connect more. The other one doesn’t seem like something I would be too into. The light novels of Hearts Connect according to Wikipedia has already ended.

As for reasons of watching harem personally I don’t usually directly choose to watch those shows, but when I do I just expect to either for one to just have a good story or at least be a fun experience in general.

To address what I mentioned about self inserting in harems, it also has to do with the point you made about most harem MCs not choosing a girl.

To leave it in the mind of the viewer, they try to get the viewer invested by allowing them to be able to self insert. Not saying everything does this, but it is what draws some to harem series.

On Death Note, that series got an anime after the manga already finished. So, it'd be a strange case if that didn't have a tied up ending. I've not seen the anime or read the manga, but I have looked at topics discussing the series (when I was deciding if I'd check it out) and it seems like there wasn't much changed in the anime adaption.

I can enjoy a series for the "ride" it takes me through, but knowing that I don't really like the "destination" means I wouldn't want to watch it again...as the ending would always be there, nagging me.

It's also kind of why I hope a recent harem series, Nisekoi, eventually gets a 2nd season. But, for now, I'm really enjoying the manga. It is the first harem manga series that I've set out to collect.

I see. When I read this earlier today I was thinking if they really wanted to picture themselves with their favorite female character they could just write a fan fiction starring them and a particular female character, but most people I don’t think would usually be interested in reading someone’s else’s made up love/sexual life with a fictional character. Plus it seems in general those stories are usually not written well and having characters act out of character. I guess it could be a private thing though and doesn’t have to be published online. There is also daydreaming.

Besides there’s a very sad story beneath this. There are some men over there who feel that being in an actual relationship is hard so instead they would much whether settle for a make believe girlfriend you can say.

Yeah an incomplete ending can have an affect on whether to re watch a show or not. Or even whether to own it for that matter. Today I just learn that one of the anime I was looking forward to owning and watching has an incomplete ending. The anime in particular has been review and posted on the front page of ANN. It’s base on a light novel series and what makes me even a bit more upset was from reading one of the comment of the review the studio that made this particular anime only adapted the first 5 out of 6 of the original light novels. It felt like they couldn’t just bother adapting the last volume. I felt disappointed at first and wasn’t sure if I should still buy the DVD (after thinking about however I think will still buy it for it is a pretty anime).

I think that there are a couple of things that do contribute. Like you already mentioned, the hours of work you hear when it comes to Japanese workplaces does seem like a lot. I've heard about bosses being happy when they see their employees sleeping, because that means that they'll be working more hours of the day after having a nap.

So, time is a constraint. But, it does take some courage to be heading out and trying to score a date. I'd hope that the work in maintaining a relationship wouldn't discourage people from seeking out a partner, but I also hope that those that haven't been in a relationship before don't expect it to be easy.

Looking at ANN, I'm going to say that you are talking about Red Data Girl. Great to look at, but the narrative gets sloppy through parts of the series. One that you'd really have to be switched on for when watching, and you may have to go out and look at some information/discussion of the series to fully grasp parts that you may not understand right off the bat.

I'd say that it is a show worth watching.

Heh, been to sites like Fanfiction.net?
(And rec.arts.anime.creative is one of the earliest anime hangouts.)

Ali07 wrote:

I think that there are a couple of things that do contribute. Like you already mentioned, the hours of work you hear when it comes to Japanese workplaces does seem like a lot. I've heard about bosses being happy when they see their employees sleeping, because that means that they'll be working more hours of the day after having a nap.

That...sounds cruel in a way depending on how you look at it, or it could just be a way for bosses to punish their employees for sleeping on the job.

Ali07 wrote:

So, time is a constraint. But, it does take some courage to be heading out and trying to score a date. I'd hope that the work in maintaining a relationship wouldn't discourage people from seeking out a partner, but I also hope that those that haven't been in a relationship before don't expect it to be easy.

Yeah, it shouldn't. In fact I think that is one of the beauties of being in a relationship. The fact that couples work together to get through hard times, as well as having arguments (Not the abusive, I hate you/you're stupid kinds but just disagreements).

enurtsol wrote:

Heh, been to sites like Fanfiction.net? (And rec.arts.anime.creative is one of the earliest anime hangouts.)

Yes! In fact I am a member of fanfiction.net (although I am not active at the moment in terms of writing and publishing my own stories). However, I've never heard of this "rec.arts.anime.creative" circle.