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NEWS: Ole Golazo Soccer Manga Ends in Weekly Shonen Jump


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Thorfinn





PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:46 pm Reply with quote
And another one bites the dust, I didn't even bother with this one, since I didn't want to be disappointed if it ended. Well, turns out it couldn't make it.
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kiminobokuwa



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:58 pm Reply with quote
Damn, SJ keeps dropping titles amost every week now. If they keep this up there will be less manga in SJ for the future. Maybe they're dropping because they don't have "long-term" potential as stories. Idk, maybe SJ should invest in shorter stories in my opinion.
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maximilianjenus



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:03 pm Reply with quote
shounen jump can only run so many mangas, so if they can't ells 400k units per volume and are not fitting a particular niche they are goign to get dropped, like it happened to bleach.(and fitting the niche explains the fan service and gag mangas)
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kiminobokuwa



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:05 pm Reply with quote
maximilianjenus wrote:
shounen jump can only run so many mangas, so if they can't ells 400k units per volume and are not fitting a particular niche they are goign to get dropped, like it happened to bleach.(and fitting the niche explains the fan service and gag mangas)


I suppose it's all about the profit in the end, but it's hard to judge a manga fully if they only released a volume or 2. The search goes on for the next "big" hit.
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CrowLia



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:11 pm Reply with quote
kiminobokuwa wrote:
Damn, SJ keeps dropping titles amost every week now. If they keep this up there will be less manga in SJ for the future. Maybe they're dropping because they don't have "long-term" potential as stories. Idk, maybe SJ should invest in shorter stories in my opinion.


Not at all, Jump has had this system going for ages. Manga that don't get good rankings in the magazine's polls within their first 12 weeks or so get axed right away. It's just the axing season so it seems a lot of stuff is ending, but we'll have a new batch of series in the coming weeks. In fact they announced 6 new titles a few weeks ago, which probably means a total of 6 on-going series are getting cancelled. The number this time is a little high, normally it's 2 or 3 series ending per quarter, but other than that, this is the usual Jump business
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Nekelen Tinsley



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:21 pm Reply with quote
With demon plans gone it would only make since that this would be next since it was at the bottom with it. Now all im wondering about is what series out of the six new ones will go first.
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perroloco



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:34 pm Reply with quote
I made this for occasions like this.

Jump follows a model that has provided them with plenty of popular titles, and in fact once a title is popular now a days it's easier for it to continue for many more years.

WSJ Total series
1968- 1973 106 series
1974-1979 78 series
1980-1984 83 series
1985-1989 69 series
1990-1994 65 series
1995-1999 63 series
2000-2004 57 series
2005-2009 58 series
2010-2014 55 series
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634 series in total
Series that ran for more than 1 year, and percent ratio at the right, first % means ratio of manga that survive 1 year, 2 years, etc, the other % means percentage of mangas that lasted 1 year surviving the next year and so on:

1968- 1973 24 series 22%
1974-1979 15 series 19%
1980-1984 17 series 22%
1985-1989 19 series 27%
1990-1994 24 series 36%
1995-1999 22 series 34%
2000-2004 16 series 28%
2005-2009 22 series 38%
2010-2014 13 series 23%


Series that ran for more than 2 years:

1968- 1973 17 series 16% 70%
1974-1979 11 series 14% 73%
1980-1984 14 series 16% 82%
1985-1989 15 series 21% 78%
1990-1994 15 series 23% 62%
1995-1999 17 series 26% 77%
2000-2004 13 series 22% 81%
2005-2009 12 series 20% 54%
2010-2014 9 series 16% 69%

Series that ran for more than 3 years:

1968- 1973 11 series 10% 64%
1974-1979 9 series 11% 81%
1980-1984 10 series 12% 71%
1985-1989 10 series 14% 66%
1990-1994 13 series 20% 86%
1995-1999 17 series 26% 100% (2 series had 3 issues less than 3 years)
2000-2004 11 series 19% 84%
2005-2009 11 series 19% 91%
2010-2014 9 series 16% 100%

Things to note:
The rate of manga that will be successful (IMO running for at least 3 years would be considered a very succesful run) is around 20%, and it doesn't realy change much between manga that ran for 2 and 3 years.
As you can see from the data once a series survives at least 2 years it has very high chances of surviving to 3 years, in average around 90% of 2 year manga will make it to 3 years.
And in average only 1 in 7 manga will get to run for 3 years.

TL:DR
Jump cancels manga faster than any other magazine based on the manga's popularity, but it also has A LOT of new series every year, around 11 nowadays, and as you can see in the last chart, the odds of a series surviving in JUMP for more than 3 years is 16%, JUMP serializes around 11 new series every year, so chances are that Jump will get two new popular series that last at least 3 years every year.

EDIT:
Also back in the 60s-70s JUMP actually cancelled manga after a period as short as only 3 weeks! That wasn't even enough to publish a tankobon! I guess nowadays they make a the deal with the publisher authors to at least continue till chapter 9 AKA enough chapters to publish a 180ish pages tankobon.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:52 pm Reply with quote
I just gotta say that "Olé golazo" is the silliest name for a football (soccer) manga. Awaiting for "Oi ippon", "Hey homerun" and "Yup Three-pointer". Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:07 pm Reply with quote
maximilianjenus wrote:
shounen jump can only run so many mangas, so if they can't ells 400k units per volume and are not fitting a particular niche they are goign to get dropped, like it happened to bleach.(and fitting the niche explains the fan service and gag mangas)
What? Bleach has sold over 400k/vol for years. It's run ended because it was done.
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CrowLia



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:26 pm Reply with quote
Saffire wrote:
maximilianjenus wrote:
shounen jump can only run so many mangas, so if they can't ells 400k units per volume and are not fitting a particular niche they are goign to get dropped, like it happened to bleach.(and fitting the niche explains the fan service and gag mangas)
What? Bleach has sold over 400k/vol for years. It's run ended because it was done.


It was 100% canceled, you can see the shift in pacing some 8 chapters before the last one, not to mention the huge amount of crucial plot lines that were left hanging. That or Kubo got tired of tanking in the polls and decided to rush it and be done with it already, word around town is his relationship with the editorial staff wasn't particularly good.
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Thorfinn





PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:29 pm Reply with quote
CrowLia wrote:
Saffire wrote:
maximilianjenus wrote:
shounen jump can only run so many mangas, so if they can't ells 400k units per volume and are not fitting a particular niche they are goign to get dropped, like it happened to bleach.(and fitting the niche explains the fan service and gag mangas)
What? Bleach has sold over 400k/vol for years. It's run ended because it was done.


It was 100% canceled, you can see the shift in pacing some 8 chapters before the last one, not to mention the huge amount of crucial plot lines that were left hanging. That or Kubo got tired of tanking in the polls and decided to rush it and be done with it already, word around town is his relationship with the editorial staff wasn't particularly good.

It wasn't cancelled, it had 4 years to end (final arc was announced in 2012), it's Kubo's fault he couldn't wrap up his own story properly.
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CrowLia



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:31 pm Reply with quote
^That's exactly what I mean. He wasn't finishing it and kept dragging it until the editors gave him a final deadline, so he had to rush everything. That is the literal definition of cancellation
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Desertking22



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:29 pm Reply with quote
Ok my problem is I subscribe to shonen jump weekly....and I enjoyed it when they had the first 3 chapters then it disappeared off the lineup....I was greatly disappointed so I never got to see anymore than the 3.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:37 pm Reply with quote
everything is a goner.....DAMMIT!
U are our last hope The promised neverland :S
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danpmss



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:46 pm Reply with quote
Thorfinn wrote:
CrowLia wrote:
Saffire wrote:
maximilianjenus wrote:
shounen jump can only run so many mangas, so if they can't ells 400k units per volume and are not fitting a particular niche they are goign to get dropped, like it happened to bleach.(and fitting the niche explains the fan service and gag mangas)
What? Bleach has sold over 400k/vol for years. It's run ended because it was done.


It was 100% canceled, you can see the shift in pacing some 8 chapters before the last one, not to mention the huge amount of crucial plot lines that were left hanging. That or Kubo got tired of tanking in the polls and decided to rush it and be done with it already, word around town is his relationship with the editorial staff wasn't particularly good.

It wasn't cancelled, it had 4 years to end (final arc was announced in 2012), it's Kubo's fault he couldn't wrap up his own story properly.



I guess someone didn't read Kubo's story with Jump in his twitter.

Those guys are [expletive] not-so-nice-people. Not Kubo's fault at all, they even manipulated his story at one point and forced him to just extend his content way more than it should be (especially at Arrancar arc).
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