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Cardcaptor Takato



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:53 pm Reply with quote
I think this is a big moment not just for Precure but for magical girl anime as a whole. While we've had parody shows like Cute High and shows that have magical boys in them like Shugo Chara and even Sailor Moon's Tuxedo Mask to an extent, we've never had a serious magical boy show before, not counting Saint Seiya and Ronin Warriors. So I hope this will lead to a new trend for both more openly LGBTQ+ characters in Precure and for more serious magical boy shows to be made.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:18 pm Reply with quote
Many people simply laugh at one of this show’s central themes: “boys can be princesses too”, yet few can deny how gorgeous and magnificent this moment is.


Truly a remarkable moment, personally one of the anime highlight moments of 2018
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:26 pm Reply with quote
Cardcaptor Takato wrote:
I think this is a big moment not just for Precure but for magical girl anime as a whole. While we've had parody shows like Cute High and shows that have magical boys in them like Shugo Chara and even Sailor Moon's Tuxedo Mask to an extent, we've never had a serious magical boy show before, not counting Saint Seiya and Ronin Warriors. So I hope this will lead to a new trend for both more openly LGBTQ+ characters in Precure and for more serious magical boy shows to be made.

If you count "magical boy" in the loosest of definitions meaning "a boy who uses magic", then there are many anime and manga series that have that.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:34 pm Reply with quote
Yet another boundary broken. Yet another reason why Hugtto! Precure is the best entry in the Pretty Cure franchise and the best magical girl series since Madoka Magica. Brought to you by Junichi Sato, the genius director who made the original Sailor Moon anime, Princess Tutu and Aria.
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Yuvelir



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:43 pm Reply with quote
Well, fudge. I was about to watch the episode. Guess I should have been a day faster.
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Dalek-baka



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:54 pm Reply with quote
Zeino wrote:
Yet another boundary broken. Yet another reason why Hugtto! Precure is the best entry in the Pretty Cure franchise and the best magical girl series since Madoka Magica. Brought to you by Junichi Sato, the genius director who made the original Sailor Moon anime, Princess Tutu and Aria.

While I won't deny that SatoJun has a lot to do with it, from all I've read person that was pushing it was Fumi Tsubota, main scriptwriter of Hugtto. One of stories she said was knowing a boy who really liked Precure but was ashamed to speak up, because it's such a girly show - so this might help with situations like that.

She did some interesting stuff in Kirakira but it seems that having Sato and Zako, might have helped in convincing producers to be more bold.

And while Henri might not be first "magical boy" becoming Precure is big news (also given how big this franchise is). Between this and Zombieland, I would love for more series to do stuff like this.
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Cardcaptor Takato



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:01 pm Reply with quote
It's a bit ironic that Precure has done more to push the boundaries of positive LGBTQ+ rep in magical girl anime than Cardcaptor Sakura Clear Card did in spite of CLAMP's reputation.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:29 pm Reply with quote
Kadmos1 wrote:
Cardcaptor Takato wrote:
I think this is a big moment not just for Precure but for magical girl anime as a whole. While we've had parody shows like Cute High and shows that have magical boys in them like Shugo Chara and even Sailor Moon's Tuxedo Mask to an extent, we've never had a serious magical boy show before, not counting Saint Seiya and Ronin Warriors. So I hope this will lead to a new trend for both more openly LGBTQ+ characters in Precure and for more serious magical boy shows to be made.

If you count "magical boy" in the loosest of definitions meaning "a boy who uses magic", then there are many anime and manga series that have that.


No he means something more on the lines of madoka. Where it had a full-female cast with a serious plot.
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Cardcaptor Takato



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:39 pm Reply with quote
It doesn't have to be super dark like Madoka but a show like Precure but with magical boys that isn't a parody like Cute High.
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Wtv



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:51 pm Reply with quote
Cardcaptor Takato wrote:
It's a bit ironic that Precure has done more to push the boundaries of positive LGBTQ+ rep in magical girl anime than Cardcaptor Sakura Clear Card did in spite of CLAMP's reputation.


What CLAMP reputation?
Killing or making miserable all lesbians they created?
Saying pedophilia is okay?
Their BL characters are mostly for the fetish. I mean, I don't see anything wrong in it as long as it's not offensive. But it's not like they were LGBT inclusive.

Edit: Just to be clear, not trying to diss CLAMP or anything. But their LGBT characters were in the same logic they used to justify a teacher marrying an underaged student. It wasn't really meant to be progressive or anything.

About Precure, it's nice. I just dislike how people are pretending this is the only Precure that tries to have an image like that when all series had something like it. Sure, no boys becoming Precure, although last season had a boy who wanna be a Precure, but it was always lots of progressive ideas.
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Heishi



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:01 pm Reply with quote
That's really neat!

Now...can we get few more male damsels?
Oh, and let's have a female equivalent to Seint Seiya, Shurato, and Ronin Warriors.
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AkaRed



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:03 pm Reply with quote
History as been made now let's see if they transform this test in something more concrete in the future.

Like it was the case for the sixth ranger for the Super Sentai.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:14 pm Reply with quote
I'm sorry, but to me this feels so...awkward. I support everybody's rights, but Cures are female-

Dang it, I did it again. See? It's awkward. Guys are "supposed" to be like the "Extra Heroes" (NOT "Sixth Ranger(s)") in PreCure.
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Yuvelir



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:15 pm Reply with quote
Wtv wrote:
About Precure, it's nice. I just dislike how people are pretending this is the only Precure that tries to have an image like that when all series had something like it. Sure, no boys becoming Precure, although last season had a boy who wanna be a Precure, but it was always lots of progressive ideas.

I'm still mad about that. Cure Waffle was a cure already in everything but name. But he was denied the position because "there were too many cures already that season".
Then they go and introduce friggin' Cure Pekorin at the last minute, albeit as a half-joke.

And so Pikario shall now join spoiler[Michiru, Kaoru and Regina] at their tea parties. With Milky Rose occasionally dropping by.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:21 pm Reply with quote
Cardcaptor Takato wrote:
It's a bit ironic that Precure has done more to push the boundaries of positive LGBTQ+ rep in magical girl anime than Cardcaptor Sakura Clear Card did in spite of CLAMP's reputation.


I doubt that adding a yuri subtext to a children's show for attracting the attention of yurifans (moreover, in its traditional form, when any romance is officially absent from the show due to the potential threat for shiping) can be called a "positive LGBT image." Not to mention that Sailor Moon did a lot more for feminism and qeer people than Sakura. When will people realize that fanservice is not a representation of anything?


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