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NyuuChan



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:49 pm Reply with quote
(((and no it isn't one involves real people Wink )))

The reason I bring this up, is due to the growing number of idiots in our anime club (and in the world in general.) there is an alarming nuber of people that i've seen/spoken with online and off, that seem to miss this little thing right here:

Porn, is ALL, 100% sex. There is no story, reason, or point, but to watch the people have sex.



Henati, on another hand, Usually has a story (sometimes a great one at that), character development (if it runs long enough to do so), and a point, three things porn is very lacking in.

example: of the one porn DVD i have seen in my life: The movies was about 120 minuites in length total. 110 minuites were devoted to sex. The rest for credits and opening videos.

now, the most recent hentai i watched was Viper GTS. It is a three episode OVA, spanning 1 hour and 30 minuites. About 30 minuites in total between all three episodes was devoted to sex. The rest was interaction amongst the characters, and other things of the sort.


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"Hentai is just anime porn. Noting else.


how? someone explain to me how they are the same, please. I really don't get it...(thats assuming Im wong in my acusations.)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:57 pm Reply with quote
Umm.... I'm not exactly the audience porn/hentai is aimed at (I'm a female), but I have to say you're making some pretty hefty assumptions of live-action porn considering you've admittedly only seen one title. You DO know there are thousands and thousands of pornographic films, right? It's not like I watch porn all the time, but I've seen my fair share and lots of those have storylines and characters. Albeit, they are pretty shoddy, as sex is really the whole point, but that's the same for hentai. So hentai=anime porn. That's it. You could argue that hentai has plot and character development, but that's only using the bare-bones definitions of those words.

(edited for clarity)


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jousha



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:59 pm Reply with quote
A dictionary definition.

por·nog·ra·phy

1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
2. The presentation or production of this material.
3. Lurid or sensational material: “Recent novels about the Holocaust have kept Hitler well offstage [so as] to avoid the... pornography of the era” (Morris Dickstein).


Hentai may have a story and such, but I think it's primary purpose is to just cause "sexual arousal."

You have given the differences between "Japanese Hentai" and "American Pornos", but both seem to be pornography in my book.
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The Frankman



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:01 pm Reply with quote
Now, let's be fair. There is also porn out there that is like 2 hrs with only 30-45 devoted to sex. Both hentai and porn vary in that aspect. I think every should take a look at the first four posts here for their own education. I know I learned a lot more.

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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:02 pm Reply with quote
Like "Lord of the G-Strings" has a storyline.
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NyuuChan



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:03 pm Reply with quote
Cloe wrote:
Umm.... I'm not exactly the audience porn/hentai is aimed at (female), but I have to say you're making some pretty hefty assumptions of live-action porn considering you've admittedly only seen one title. You DO know there are thousands and thousands of pornographic films, right? It's not like I watch porn all the time, but I've seen my fair share and lots of those have storylines and characters. Albeit, they are pretty shoddy, as sex is really the whole point, but that's the same for hentai. So hentai=anime porn. That's it. You could argue that hentai has plot and character development, but that's only using the bare-bones definitions of those words.


Well that's true to some extent, the fact remains that there's a huge difference in what i feel they are trying to accomplish. no that was worded poorly. Look at it like this: The storylines in regular porn usually involve Something extremly strange or unbelievable, like Nurses having sex with people to save their lives (this is the plot i was treated to) whereas hentai series tend to have more interesting plots, that would still be good even if all sexual content was removed. Thats my only gripe with porn (i have no issues with it or those who view it mind you sorry forgot to point that out).

yeah they call that the internet. (refering to bolded section)
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dark_hand



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:06 pm Reply with quote
i totally agree. i have not seen any porn that has tentacles or monsters having sex. only hentai has those supernatural sort of thing. many hentais also have actions and adventures that sometimes have real fighting on them. porn has nothing like that. people really should be more open minded about this kind of stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:10 pm Reply with quote
They actually do have live action tentacle rape movies.
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The Frankman



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:13 pm Reply with quote
fighterholic wrote:
Like "Lord of the G-Strings" has a storyline.

Hey, spoiler[A Clockwork Orgy] was a timeless classic. And what about spoiler[Ms. Assfire? Star Whores? Legally Boned? Lost in Penetration? Intolerable Boobery]?

I'm sorry, but I'm reading these off Google and LAUGHING MY EVERLOVING A** OFF!!

And umm, dark_hand . . . apparently you have have missed the LA version of Overfiend.


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Cloe
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:17 pm Reply with quote
NyuuChan wrote:
Well that's true to some extent, the fact remains that there's a huge difference in what i feel they are trying to accomplish. no that was worded poorly. Look at it like this: The storylines in regular porn usually involve Something extremly strange or unbelievable, like Nurses having sex with people to save their lives (this is the plot i was treated to) whereas hentai series tend to have more interesting plots, that would still be good even if all sexual content was removed. Thats my only gripe with porn (i have no issues with it or those who view it mind you sorry forgot to point that out).

Let me get this straight. You argue that your definition of "porn" (I assume you refer to American porno) is strange and unbelievable... but that hentai isn't??? Right, I forgot. Of course it's completely normal for high school girls to be horrifically raped by tentacle monsters, only to eventually go into sheer cries of ecstasy by the end. TOTALLY believable. Even if you take out the tentacle monster, there's no way any female would get into rape. Ever. Also, most hentai plots would be non-existent without sex. That's a fact.
And here you go again, with this "regular porn usually does this and this." Perhaps you should try to gain a bit more knowledge and experience with the subject before you try to make presumptions about it. (On the other hand, that's probably a bad idea... what are you, like 15?) Please read jousha's post. Hentai=porn. Just with more rape and tentacles in it. End of story.

Also, I was referring before to titles specifically in the home video porn industry, not the internet. That would make the count millions.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:22 pm Reply with quote
What you're assuming is incorrect and idiotic. There's a lot of porn out there that try has a storyline like Pirates and it's not all about sex. It can be 30 min of storyline follow by 20 min of sex and repeat. There's a lot of hentai that just focuses on sex with zero story and development.

People watch hentai or porn because they want to be aroused, not because they want to some deeply though-provoking story. Why would you regard hentai as being above live-action porn?

The only differences I see between hentai and porn is because hentai is aniamtion, they can let their imagination run while like making a girl grow a penis instantly.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:27 pm Reply with quote
Cloe wrote:

Let me get this straight. You argue that your definition of "porn" (I assume you refer to American porno) is strange and unbelievable... but that hentai isn't??? Right, I forgot. Of course it's completely normal for high school girls to be horrifically raped by tentacle monsters, only to eventually go into sheer cries of ecstasy by the end. TOTALLY believable. Even if you take out the tentacle monster, there's no way any female would get into rape. Ever. Also, most hentai plots would be non-existent without sex. That's a fact.
And here you go again, with this "regular porn usually does this and this." Perhaps you should try to gain a bit more knowledge and experience with the subject before you try to make presumptions about it. (On the other hand, that's probably a bad idea... what are you, like 15?) Please read jousha's post. Hentai=porn. Just with more rape and tentacles in it. End of story.


You put it there, sister!
Hey, if you have a guy's **** in a girl's ***** on your TV screen, then that is porn. Porn is porn, be it animated or live action.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:30 pm Reply with quote
darkhunter wrote:
...they can let their imagination run while like making a girl grow a penis instantly.

Shocked I don't know why, but I began laughing uncontrollably when that image forced itself into my head.

...I need to shower now.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:32 pm Reply with quote
darkhunter wrote:
...they can let their imagination run while like making a girl grow a penis instantly.



Welcome to the world of anime.
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The Frankman



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:39 pm Reply with quote
Cloe wrote:
Right, I forgot. Of course it's completely normal for high school girls to be horrifically raped by tentacle monsters, only to eventually go into sheer cries of ecstasy by the end. TOTALLY believable.

I believe you're reffering to Law #85 of the Laws Of Japanese Anime (which I'm currently re-editing), "Law of the Naughty Tentacles". When I get home I'll post it here.

No offense Cloe but are you a woman? You went extra offensive when you heard the opening post so I was just wondering. In fact don't answer, doesn't matter.
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